That was basically the plan in the scenario I mentioned. This forces a hurried retreat of the Turkish forces, possibly with heavy losses and the besieging of Constantinople. What are your thoughts?
Thread starter Nassirisimo; Start date May 30, 2011; Prev. Yes, that's the main problem. I see problems with this. Screenshot. Would Constantinople, or perhaps only its European part, be made an international city in the long term, somewhat like Tangier?
"The Prussia at the Balkans") Seeing all those "Best nations" threads, it is obligatory for me to make this thread and explain why this easter egg is super fun and strong to play with. The slightly more successful landings, say the forces are a bit better organised and also don't pause on the beaches but occupy more of the heights surrounding them. Greece, worried about being left out launches proposed attacks on the Ionnia coast.
No, I meant that the Greeks made an offer during the Greek-Turkish war in the early 20s. Here, southern Dobruja and Bessarabia are reasons to momentarily overlook continued Hungarian control of Transylvania. This forces a hurried retreat of the Turkish forces, possibly with heavy losses and the besieging of Constantinople. Now, in an ATL where Bulgaria has been on the winning side, such a scenario would be quite possible, perhaps even a requirement for a Greek invasion of Turkey. I think if any extra land has to be gained from Turkey, it has to be in the first Balkan war or else its going to be much more difficult. The Balkan Wars consisted of two conflicts that took place in the Balkan Peninsula in 1912 and 1913.
The Balkan allies were able to get away with their attack on the Ottoman empire in the 1st war because most of the Ottoman Army was stationed in Asia, and the Greek navy made it difficult to get any more troops into Europe.
You must log in or register to reply here. Bulgaria, often dubbed "the Prussia of the Balkans", was militarily the most powerful of the four states, with a large, well-trained and well-equipped army. To make the analogue of Bulgaria to Prussia complete, shouldn't Bulgaria be the main force behind Southern Slavic unification like Prussia was the main force behind German Unification? Screenshot.
If the Bulgarians manage to keep the Ottomans or Romanians out and fight only Serbia and Greece, might they win? One-Upped Prussia of the Balkans by becoming Prussia of the World. However, from then on, the Ottomans kept a higher percentage of the army in Europe, allowing them to defend their territory more effectively, like in the Gallipoli campaign. Bulgaria did want as much of Thrace as they could get, but they wanted Ohrid more, and to weaken Greece. The CSA won the 2nd ACW but remained stuck at war with Cuba, but they and the Soviets guaranteed each other.In what I feel was one of my cleverer bits of foreign policy, I took out Cuba for them (which was hard, they managed to shove 58 divisions onto the tiny ass island), and didn't take Havana so that the CSA could puppet it, then declared war on Cuba to avoid the Soviet guarantee. This draws the Turks into larger scale fighting and coupled with the extensive diplomatic campaign to get Bulgaria into the war they then overrun most of E Thrace. But Greece could offer its navy, which alone could prevent Ottoman reinforcements from being transported from Asia directly to the European fronts.
Furthermore, the circumstances you present give Romania further cause than merely Bessarabia for joining the war on the opposite side than was true in our timeline. Needless to say, most of these areas would make an alliance with the Hapsburgs essentially unpalatable.
The Balkan allies were able to get away with their attack on the Ottoman empire in the 1st war because most of the Ottoman Army was stationed in Asia, and the Greek navy made it difficult to get any more troops into Europe. One big problem here is that getting Bulgaria to join the Entente is like getting Italy to join the Central Powers; more of the land desired is controlled by the side in question rather than the side joined in our timeline. Challenge - Make Bulgaria the true Prussia of the Balkans.
As much as the Italians may have wanted Savoy, Malta, and Nice, they wanted Trieste and Trent more, and wanted Istria if they could get away with it, but had designs on Dalmatia more broadly. To make the analogue of Bulgaria to Prussia complete, shouldn't Bulgaria be the main force behind Southern Slavic unification like Prussia was the main force behind German Unification? Imagine it like a mix between Byzantium and Prussia. In essence, any aid that the Entente gives Bulgaria, if we accept your underlying premise, will be blown in a war with Romania, and not used to help save Serbia.
I see problems with this.
1 month ago. Start as Ottomans. As the Greek ambassador to Sofia noted: "Greece can provide 600,000 men for the war effort.
In essence, any aid that the Entente gives Bulgaria, if we accept your underlying premise, will be blown in a war with Romania, and not used to help save Serbia.
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